Guna have to do a thread about the amount of US insomniacs on this site……..
GO TO BED PEOPLE…..!! Geezzz....!!
it's late and i can't sleep.
i've been around the dial a dozen times, there's nothing to watch.
according to the thermometer in my car, it was 123 degrees in palm desert today about 5 p.m. of course, palm desert has miles of concrete, makes it a little hotter than other places.
Guna have to do a thread about the amount of US insomniacs on this site……..
GO TO BED PEOPLE…..!! Geezzz....!!
it's late and i can't sleep.
i've been around the dial a dozen times, there's nothing to watch.
according to the thermometer in my car, it was 123 degrees in palm desert today about 5 p.m. of course, palm desert has miles of concrete, makes it a little hotter than other places.
A word or two is about all I can say after the night I had. My head hurts………!!
Lovely sunny morning here BTW......
it's late and i can't sleep.
i've been around the dial a dozen times, there's nothing to watch.
according to the thermometer in my car, it was 123 degrees in palm desert today about 5 p.m. of course, palm desert has miles of concrete, makes it a little hotter than other places.
So down under is going out for a good night out. The US is just getting in from a good night out, and we in the UK are just starting on the hangover from having a good night out. This place really is hard to keep up with sometimes…..
this week i was contacted by an old friend of mine who was recently disfellowshipped.
i encouraged her to check out jwd for support, advice and friendship.
she had a brief look but said it wasn't really for her, she would rather just "move on and have fun!".
The question should be:-
How hot is your friend, do you have her phone number, and does the expression "fun" mean what I think it does……??
Well, it doesn’t surprise me that you are now and ex-ex-jw. All that was said in the WT magazines was right. Lets take a look back at what was said in some of the articles and see how your life has faired.
You start to compromise in your service, not out on the ministry as much, not studying like the society advises, having doubts, questioning things, nit-picking at what the society says, and then you start to read outside of the societies guidelines. You end up feeling the strain and slow in your worship to Jehovah and his visible organisation.
The slowing down causes more doubts and then you start to read apostate literature, and in your case, start to talk to these nasty apostates on the internet (You were warned time and again about that one). They fill you with their lies and poison and win you over with their cunning words and ‘machinations’, telling you that Jehovah’s organisation on earth is wrong and not really that good for you, and that you could have a better life without, throwing all kind of accusations and sneers about how Jehovah isn’t behind the organisation. Now your doubts heighten and Satan has you in his hands. You weaken to the point of near inactivity, not putting spiritual interests first in your life anymore, but now listening to "misleading inspired utterances". (1 Tim 4:1,2)
You take in more and more apostate lies till it comes to the point that you believe their poison, you have been charmed by their smooth words, sharing it also with your wife, as did Eve with sharing the fruit with her husband under the influence of the serpent. She then also bites into the ‘luscious fruit’ of lies and deceit of apostasy.
Now, not just happy with the fact that you have ‘spiritually shipwrecked’ your own immediate family, you start to try to spread your lies and disparaging remarks to others in the congregation of Jehovah, following the footsteps of your new father and leader, Satan the devil, being ‘caught alive’ by that one.
But luckily the congregation has gods spirit protecting it, and your insidious plans are thwarted, you are then exposed and then cast out, again, like Adam and Eve who were cast out of the garden, rejected by God and his people, keeping them in a cleansed state while disciplining you with "love" so that you can see the error of your ways, and turn around, and be healed and ‘greased with oil in the name of Jehovah’.
Then how do you fair after being expelled. You start to worship Satan by celebrating his ‘Pagan’ festivals. Then you start to gamble and celebrate birthdays and all kinds of wicked things. You even start to believe that there is no god, taking the worlds philosophy that the ‘creation’ made itself, rather than give the due credit to the creator. And it all could have been avoided, if only you would have stayed close to Jehovah’s visible organisation on earth. The WT was right all along. Did it not predict such a tragic eventuality…….???
Do you know what, just writing that made me shudder. Uhggg…….!!!
So you are going to bugger off then are you….?? Mmmm…..! Well that’s charming isn’t it…..?? Moving away from England was rude enough, not being good enough for you anymore and ‘cramping your lifestyle’ somewhat, but now you are going to ‘move on’ from JWD. Well you really have got a big opinion of yourself haven’t you…?? Too good for us all now are you…..??? Moved on then eh…..?? Don’t need to talk to us rabble anymore….!!
Well, sod off then, you egotistical over opinionated tosser. See if we care. This place is too good for you anyway. No one listens to what you say anymore anyway. You’re just a wannabe gambler who is just about to be evicted from his home. You had it coming to you……..!!!!
Glad that you are an ex-ex. Must be great to feel you have moved on fully. All the best for your future plans. Hope things come good for you on the family front. You never know, one day we might be talking to them on JWD as well. Best of luck to you buddy.
Take care Dude…….!! Keep in touch………
why are there so many old women in jw world who are so down on men?
my divorce will be finalized next month, it hurt me, but it was and is an unfortunate circumstance of life.
but among the jw women it was assumed that i was happy my marriage had ended so now i would have more time for meetings and field service.
There are a few women like that on this forum.
With JW’s I think that it might be because they know that in the ‘truth’ you will be with a man for all of your days, as they probably were, and you will never be able to leave him "until death do you part".
I would think that these women were with the wrong person for too long and now have issues, and the teachings of the organisation, and the bible come to that, dictate that you have to stay with the ‘wrong’ person come what may. It would think that these ones had very unfulfilled lives.
The good thing about being free is that you can think for yourself.
I used to love that "wait on Jehovah" speech. Yeah, just wait on Jehovah to put things right while you have to suffer being abused by a paedophile elder till you manage to find a third witness to testify. Mmmmm…..(this actually happened to a girl that I knew. She was told to wait on Jah).
You have to make things happen sometimes. Waiting on God may take some time, or never happen at all……….
i left a comment on this video three weeks ago, a very good video titled jws, ex-jw "apostates," and faith!
by a youtuber called shazoolo.... http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=btvajrqc2oa#anqrgt3pxpc.
i asked if anyone could explain the 607 b.c.e.
More important. The guy in the video. OK then girls….Is he hot or not………..?????
jesus' message differs from every other religious leader of his day in that he encouraged his followers to love their enemy.. are jw's encouraged to love their enemies?.
they aren't allowed to even pray for disfellowshipped former brethern although they are stray sheep.
you'll recall jesus said that a fine shepherd would even leave the 99 sheep to go after and return with the "stray".. how do jw's love their enemies?.
In the circle of JW’s that I used to know it would be difficult for some of them to claim that they have love amongst themselves, let alone love of an enemy. If this fundamental part of their worship is missing, then it is no surprise that they won’t be loving to anyone outside of the cult……
They mistake the preaching work as an act of love, which, to their belief could be seen as true, but looking deeper into the actions of JW’s it would not be hard to see a huge degree of a lack of love.
What I hated about them was when they blew their own trumpet on how they showed love for people in the ‘world’, like in year books about how they help out during disasters and how the relief organisations praised them. I know of good things done by JW’s but no more than the rest of humanity. But again, this is still not in the category of loving your enemy.
I would like to ask a JW who he thinks his enemy is and then ask how he would show love to them…..(Matthew 5: 43,44)
hello gang,.
so, i'm getting low on my apostate materials and was wondering if you could recommend anything beyond what we've done already...... -crisis of conscience.
-in search of christian freedom.
"The Four Presidents of the Watch Tower Society" I found very interesting. People here have mentioned the shock at books like "The Sign of the Last Days. When?" which really did get me going. But the "Four Presidents" book really got me angry with how those in charge right at the top acted despicably.
The part that stood out to me was when Knorr was challenged about getting married, and he kicked out the person that challenged him, being that the person who challenged him asked if he could marry a few years previous. The guy ended up dead on a park bench because of sleeping outside in the cold, having no where to go after leaving Bethel, and everyone in Bethel and also the surrounding congregations were ordered not to slip him money or feel sorry for him.
It gets inside the mind of those people responsible for the WT machine.
was there anything positive about being a jehovah's witness?
I would say that there is a wealth of positive to take from being a JW. I don’t say that to underestimate the negative, but in so many ways it has improved me as a person. But I would say that leaving it was the biggest refinement that I had from being in it. Learned so many good things that I can continue to use. It has heightened my perception that I know that I wouldn’t have had apart from it.
Glad to be out, but am comfortable with what I learned in it. Like Ray Franz said in his book, a negative experience can teach you so many positive things about yourself. I also think that I would have been as promiscuous as hell, so I am glad not to have children of mine dotted around the place. Honesty keeps me in work, being that people can pick up on the fact that I am……Don’t quite know why that is but there you go……
Yes I would say that there were many good things to take away, along with the crap……..